Comments on: Shopp Product Options http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/ into the web & tech Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:59:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0-beta2-14822 By: Dragonmom http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-518 Dragonmom Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:35:42 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-518 Hi Jon, I am browsing through your blog hoping to find more descriptions of what you're planning. I can tell you what I hope to see someday, somehow; A commerce package set up similarly to wordpress, where the structure has a lean and quick-loading interface to begin with. I'd like to see functionality added via plugins, so that I need not have so many unnecessary files on my server, so many unnecessary queries slowing down load time, so many unnecessary links in my backend. My OSCommerce site is an ugly behemoth as far as I'm concerned. I've set up zen carts for people and had to babysit them forever, while they stared, bewildered, at the millions of extra options in the backend, that they will never need. The template system zencart uses kinda sucks. On the test shop I'm building from zencart, I have three boxes in use out of the twenty available. I'd like to put my choices in place, rather than remove them with my barely-minimal php skills. I, and my friends, are solo craftspeople. We don't buy to sell, anda page devoted to manufacturers is useless. I've turned my manufacturers.php into a materials.php, but there are some things I can't change, like the product reviews-- which are useless when you sell unique items... my observations are not meant to lambaste you for what you are already doing-- just comments! Hi Jon, I am browsing through your blog hoping to find more descriptions of what you’re planning.

I can tell you what I hope to see someday, somehow; A commerce package set up similarly to wordpress, where the structure has a lean and quick-loading interface to begin with. I’d like to see functionality added via plugins, so that I need not have so many unnecessary files on my server, so many unnecessary queries slowing down load time, so many unnecessary links in my backend.

My OSCommerce site is an ugly behemoth as far as I’m concerned. I’ve set up zen carts for people and had to babysit them forever, while they stared, bewildered, at the millions of extra options in the backend, that they will never need. The template system zencart uses kinda sucks. On the test shop I’m building from zencart, I have three boxes in use out of the twenty available. I’d like to put my choices in place, rather than remove them with my barely-minimal php skills.

I, and my friends, are solo craftspeople. We don’t buy to sell, anda page devoted to manufacturers is useless. I’ve turned my manufacturers.php into a materials.php, but there are some things I can’t change, like the product reviews– which are useless when you sell unique items…

my observations are not meant to lambaste you for what you are already doing– just comments!

]]> By: leanne http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-516 leanne Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:44:08 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-516 Hi, I would love to beta test this and use in my new book. Could you provide further details by email please. thank you Leanne Hi, I would love to beta test this and use in my new book. Could you provide further details by email please.

thank you

Leanne

]]> By: ded http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-514 ded Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:20:34 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-514 just wanna share some info related to product atribute / variarian http://www.magentocommerce.com/blog/comments/video-bundle-kitting-in-magento-11/ it's create custom product from some products variations may be it can give some idea. thanks just wanna share some info related to product atribute / variarian
http://www.magentocommerce.com/blog/comments/video-bundle-kitting-in-magento-11/

it’s create custom product from some products variations
may be it can give some idea.

thanks

]]> By: Jonathan Davis http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-512 Jonathan Davis Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:31:04 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-512 @luc: I've only briefly begun reviewing the roadmap. I've had a client emergency that has further derailed some of my timeline plans. That said, I have other surprises in the works that I hope to reveal very soon. @luc: I’ve only briefly begun reviewing the roadmap. I’ve had a client emergency that has further derailed some of my timeline plans. That said, I have other surprises in the works that I hope to reveal very soon.

]]> By: Joss http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-511 Joss Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:24:54 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-511 I would have to agree with the others on going for product variations rather than tiered pricing. It seems to me the majority of people who would want something like tiered pricing are merchants who are reselling an item to distributors. As luc said, discount codes would usually do the trick for most merchants who might want different pricing. On the other hand, I suppose even the resellers could assign specific discount codes to their distributors, and thus you could still offer the benefit of the tiered pricing without the hassle. I would have to agree with the others on going for product variations rather than tiered pricing. It seems to me the majority of people who would want something like tiered pricing are merchants who are reselling an item to distributors. As luc said, discount codes would usually do the trick for most merchants who might want different pricing. On the other hand, I suppose even the resellers could assign specific discount codes to their distributors, and thus you could still offer the benefit of the tiered pricing without the hassle.

]]> By: Luc http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-510 Luc Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:13:02 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-510 Jon - are you any closer to releasing the roadmap, or the beta? Jon – are you any closer to releasing the roadmap, or the beta?

]]> By: Pete http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-509 Pete Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:10:24 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-509 Is it better to focus on product variations or tiered pricing? Or spend the enormous amount of development time necessary to design a complete solution? My vote is for product variations Is it better to focus on product variations or tiered pricing? Or spend the enormous amount of development time necessary to design a complete solution?

My vote is for product variations

]]> By: Jonathan Davis http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-508 Jonathan Davis Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:39:55 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-508 luc: I'll have something posted on the roadmap later today and that will give you the most detailed look. I'll also share a screenshot of the product editor and variant editor, though a single screenshot will hardly do it justice. But, that's a tease for you. luc: I’ll have something posted on the roadmap later today and that will give you the most detailed look. I’ll also share a screenshot of the product editor and variant editor, though a single screenshot will hardly do it justice. But, that’s a tease for you.

]]> By: Luc http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-507 Luc Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:20:47 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-507 I think product variants, rather than tiered pricing would be more useful to those wanting an off the shelf plugin. Yes you're leaving out 10% of people's requirements, but are those 10% the type of people that want a WordPress plugin, or would they lean towards something like Magento anyway? So long as discount codes are somewhere in the roadmap (beta?), I'll be a happy bunny. Any rough idea of a roadmap? Are we talking days, weeks, a month? I'm on the verge of having to use WP-commerce instead of my preferred option of shopp (and it's not even been seen yet!). I think product variants, rather than tiered pricing would be more useful to those wanting an off the shelf plugin. Yes you’re leaving out 10% of people’s requirements, but are those 10% the type of people that want a WordPress plugin, or would they lean towards something like Magento anyway? So long as discount codes are somewhere in the roadmap (beta?), I’ll be a happy bunny.

Any rough idea of a roadmap? Are we talking days, weeks, a month? I’m on the verge of having to use WP-commerce instead of my preferred option of shopp (and it’s not even been seen yet!).

]]> By: Jonathan Davis http://insites.ingenesis.net/2008/06/30/shopp-product-options/#comment-506 Jonathan Davis Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:01:37 +0000 http://insites.ingenesis.net/?p=65#comment-506 @brett: Thanks for the feedback. That's encouraging. This project has been a difficult balance of wanting to get it right from the start and trying to do too much. I definitely don't believe the final solution does too much, but it does add quite a lot of development time. Thankfully, I'm halfway done with the implementation so i can get back to finalizing it for beta. @brett: Thanks for the feedback. That’s encouraging. This project has been a difficult balance of wanting to get it right from the start and trying to do too much. I definitely don’t believe the final solution does too much, but it does add quite a lot of development time.

Thankfully, I’m halfway done with the implementation so i can get back to finalizing it for beta.

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